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“Affordability is worse in a blue state.” “We will debate that.” “No, no, there’s no debate. New York, Illinois, California, Massachusetts are depopulating.” “They usually’re going to locations in Florida, like Florida, the place rates of interest are — I’m saying inflation’s up 22 % during the last 4 years.” “Properly inflation — then inflation is up 25 % nationally. So it’s decrease.” “I imagine in New York it was 19 %.” “Sorry.” “I imagine in New York it was 19 %.” “I don’t assume that’s proper. I’ve developed on this and that the president’s been proper, and the president has mentioned it publicly. The president has a a lot larger threat urge for food than I do. And the president went in with a maximalist place. And that’s truly what gave us the leverage within the negotiations.”